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Mickey mouse
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What a shame - but fortunate for the org
by Mickey mouse inas referred to in this thread, ray franz's book crisis of conscience, arguably the most important book for ex jws to read - has been out of print for months but is available from amazon at $100+.. internet explorer, probably the most commonly used internet browser - is not compatible with this website.. most young jws probably access the internet via a smartphone but good luck trying to post to this website on one.. .
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What a shame - but fortunate for the org
by Mickey mouse inas referred to in this thread, ray franz's book crisis of conscience, arguably the most important book for ex jws to read - has been out of print for months but is available from amazon at $100+.. internet explorer, probably the most commonly used internet browser - is not compatible with this website.. most young jws probably access the internet via a smartphone but good luck trying to post to this website on one.. .
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Mickey mouse
As referred to in this thread, Ray Franz's book Crisis of Conscience, arguably the most important book for ex JWs to read - has been out of print for months but is available from Amazon at $100+.
Internet explorer, probably the most commonly used internet browser - is not compatible with this website.
Most young JWs probably access the internet via a smartphone but good luck trying to post to this website on one.
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Mickey mouse
Hi and welcome. Try using Google Chrome or Firefox, this forum doesn't work with Internet Explorer 9.
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Can you take part in a very modern discussion?
by nicolaou innote to mods.
i guess this might break posting guideline 8 but it really is just a bit of fun.
pm me if you're concerned or don't understand what's going on.. nic'.
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Mickey mouse
Nice.
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It CAN'T go on much longer
by jean-luc picard inso thats what my mum told me today.
i've learned to hold my tongue but i was thinking,.
"why can't it?
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Mickey mouse
I think a lot of JWs wish for it because it will bring change to their unbearably pointless lives. They have spent their lives spreading a false message and wasted hours in meetings and assemblies. If armageddon doesn't come then all of this was a waste. Unthinkable!
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I have a problem any suggestions would be appreciated
by nugget inthis year will be my parents 50th wedding anniversary.
my mum is a jw my father is not.
my husband and i hade been df'd and i have 3 sisters.
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Mickey mouse
Nic said:
All I can suggest is that you sit down with your Mum & Dad over a cup of tea and ask them how THEY would like to celebrate their 50th.
And you said:
I am thinking that it may be worth while paying for my parents to have a romantic dinner somewhere nice just the two of them on their anniversay and then hold an informal family gathering at the weekend.
These are the two thoughts I would go with. to you nugget, it's not an easy situation. x
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The Seat of Motivation : The fake JW heart
by snare&racket ini realised the other day how weird it is that jw's are taught that the heart and mind are seperate.
by enlarge the mind is satans world, its influence, your questions, doubts and unreliable thinking... all this takes place there, the heart is your seat of motivation, its what interacts with god when he opens it up, its where you talk to him from and where your good and bad motives arise (contradictory) but your heart cant be trusted (contradictory.).
either way, the jw's potray a seperation of heart and mind.
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Mickey mouse
I agree with you 100%. This part especially:
Ok so now we go to the mind. Is your mind split in half? The mind AND a figurative heart? Of course it is not! I think this is a psychological ploy for control. For every doubt, fear, bad feeling, questioning, apostate website that passes through your thought process, they make you treat that as the worldly independant thinking in your "mind". The feeling of comradrie you get singing in an assembly (when you are a sucker for the sales pitch) , the feeling you get from placing a magazine, the love you have for your friends, the other JW's.. the prayers to god, the talks, your answers... these all come from "your heart." Whenever they refer to information as seeds, apostate seeds will 'plant in your mind' but the ministry work plants seeds in peoples 'hearts'.
What utter bullshit. I really dont think this is a small matter. The heart and mind is obviously the same entity, its YOU. They are just associating negative thoughts with the "mind" and positive with the made up "heart". I think this is intentional, a deep psychological tactic. It is also very, very damaging. YOu begin to have an inner dialogue, an inner turmoil. The heart v the mind. I remember it as a JW.
You end up not trusting your own mind, infact you are told to not lean upon your own understanding! But they know this doesnt really add up, so just to make sure and cover all the bases (been as its one entity) they reaffirm the heart is also treacherous... leaving people totally convinced they cant trust themselves, either in mind or heart and therefore hand over their minds to....... the financial discreet shareholders.
It makes me wonder of they have a much better understanding of psychology and thought reform than we give them credit for.
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People coming in VS. People running out...
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Mickey mouse
In the past year there are 5 who have walked away in the local congregation. There have been no baptisms that I know of.
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My Experience
by wezz ingood day to everyone.
after reading and benefiting from the numerous experiences posted here, i thought it would be proper for me to share my story too.
i was born and brought up as an anglican church member.
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Mickey mouse
Every time a bond is created, it is quickly cut off by reasoning such as, “this is God’s organization”, “to where will one go”, “God has always had an organization – be it kingdoms or physical organizations”.
These are exactly the things my husband kept saying when I first spoke to him. These are thought stoppers. It may seem as though what you're saying isn't going in but it is; the key is to ask questions and know when to back off and let her think. I went through this process with my husband and continued attending meetings with him. It took months but in the end the questions combined with what he was seeing and hearing first hand at the hall woke him up; he's out now too.
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Help.. was the 8/15/68 WT altered later?
by Norcal_Sun inhello, i am doing some research on 1975 again, and i came across this on a couple different sites:.
are we to assume from this study that the battle of armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of christ will begin by then?
possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man's existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of christ.
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Mickey mouse
This also looks as though it's from the bound volume http://4jehovah.org/images/stories/downloads/jehovahs_witness/history/1975c.pdf